Conservative blogger Sister Toldjah is having a field day beating on Ebbert. Toldjah's unbending mentality (which I'm restraining myself from mocking) makes me feel sorry for her.
And before any uber-fems start screaming, yes, I know ultimately it’s the woman’s choice but I can tell you right now if I had a b/f, and he came over to the house and announced, “Honey, I’m going to pose in Playgirl. What do you think?” he’d get an earful, and if, in the end, he decided he was still going to go through with it, it’d be time to say adios.
Amanda Marcotte argued that men aren't into the porn ideal woman.
The major point of the argument is that men have been built up by porn to expect physical perfection in women and therefore women are going to be sexually neglected as men turn to porn, where women are better-looking. I think that's women projecting their own physical insecurities onto porn actresses, not men comparing. For one thing, I find it hard to believe that most men really consider super-skinny women with hard, fake breasts, fried and bleached hair and leathery tans to be some kind of physical ideal. Sure, there are a handful of men who really like that, but most men have their own particular tastes, and most men that I know of at least would rather be with a woman who is pretty and natural instead of skanked up and surgically redecorated. Yeah, it's a different version of the Madonna/whore complex, but at least it's much milder. Most guys expect good girls to like sex and good girls are still the ones they want to date.
I think the whole Madonna/whore complex is a silly false conception. I used to have a friend that worked as a stripper. I would hang out and talk to the girls near closing and hang with them after work. The girls dress down outside of work. My friend wore sweat pants and button shirts as her out of work uniform. I can attest from hanging with these girls that there are guys with strange kinks.
One customer paid for a girl to knee him in the balls for a private dance. The other girls heard about it and they all gave him a private dance. Some men have strange ideas of what of "ideal."
Word of advise guys: chances are the girl giving you a dance hates your guts. I'm am probably the only guy that went into a strip girl and heard a dancer and bartender sing songs from Rent. You would be surprised to find out how many dancers were theatre geeks in high school.
I have no idea if Ebbert felt posing for Playboy was liberating. Ebbert's decision doesn't bother me from a moral perspective. I haven't seen any major feminist bloggers write about the Ebbert/Playboy story. This is probably cringe-inducing for them. I'm curious as to what they think about it.
The central issue is should Southwest Airlines have asked her to cover up? The answer is no. The airline let Ebbert fly in her outfit on one flight and covered up on another. If they are going to have a silly dress policy then it should be consistent.
Hey, this is news to me.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm of exactly the same mind as before: Southwest Airlines behaved like idiots, and it doesn't matter if Kyla is/was a stripper, a model, a mommy, or a nun.
It. Makes. No. Difference.
Southwest behaved like idiots toward a paying customer, end of story.
(Of course, the outfits that airline used to put on their flight attendants makes this all that much more hypocritical, but no-one accused modern corporations of being consistent.)
It. Makes. No. Difference.
ReplyDeleteMy point exactly. I am not surprised that feminist bloggers are staying away from the story. I wish they would blog about it. Porn, sexism, women being morally judged are all important issues. Ebbert seems to encompass all of this.
Men: LOVE naked women. Doesn't matter how they look so much. Men might prefer a certain type but they like ALL naked women. Very strange men insist on perfection.
ReplyDeleteStrippers: Mere humans. Some very cool some very big assholes.
Southeast had NO biz telling her how to dress.